Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

03/25/2022 09:00 AM Senate EDUCATION

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            SB 236-FACILITIES CONSTITUTING A SCHOOL                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:04:42 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND announced the consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 236                                                                
"An Act relating to facilities constituting a school."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND asked Mr. King to introduce SB 236, a committee                                                                   
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:05:05 AM                                                                                                                    
ED KING, Staff, Senator Roger Holland, Alaska State Legislature,                                                                
Juneau, Alaska, introduced SB 236 by reading the sponsor                                                                        
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB  236 seeks  to  remedy a  technical  problem in  the                                                                    
     education funding  formula. The  problem occurs  when a                                                                    
     district  with  a  single  school  and  more  than  425                                                                    
     students  opens a  charter school.  Under current  law,                                                                    
     the existence of the charter  school implies that there                                                                    
     is  no  longer "only  one  facility  administered as  a                                                                    
     school." Consequently, the  district must calculate the                                                                    
     adjusted ADM in  the public school with  a lower school                                                                    
     size factor. As  a result, opening a  charter school in                                                                    
     such  a  district comes  with  a  financial penalty  of                                                                    
     about $1 million per year.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     SB  236 adds  three words  to existing  law: "excluding                                                                    
     charter schools." These three  words allow the district                                                                    
     to   maintain  its   full   funding   and  remove   the                                                                    
     disincentive a  school board  faces when  considering a                                                                    
     charter  school application.  While it  is tempting  to                                                                    
     consider  the fiscal  note  as a  $1  million per  year                                                                    
     funding  increase,  it's  important  to  remember  that                                                                    
     simply closing the charter school  would yield the same                                                                    
     result.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The   Senate  Education   Committee  supports   charter                                                                    
     schools  and requests  your  support  in removing  this                                                                    
     barrier  to  ensure  they  are  available  to  students                                                                    
     across the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:06:18 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND  noted there  was a  committee substitute  (CS) for                                                               
the committee to consider.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:06:26 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  moved to adopt the  proposed CS for SB  236, work                                                               
order 32-LS1642\B, as the working document.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:06:41 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND objected  for purposes of discussion  and asked Mr.                                                               
King  for an  explanation of  the changes  between version  A and                                                               
version B.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:06:47 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. KING explained  that the committee substitute  adds Section 2                                                               
to SB 236, adding an effective  date of July 1, 2022, ensuring no                                                               
partial-year funding obligations.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:07:01 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND  removed  his  objection;   he  found  no  further                                                               
objection, and CSSB 236, version B, was adopted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:07:24 AM                                                                                                                    
ANDREW LOVITT, Director  of Budget & Finance,  Lower Yukon School                                                               
District, Mountain  Village, said  he had  held the  position for                                                               
six years. He read his testimony:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     LYSD is  seeking your  support of SB  236. SB  236 will                                                                    
     remedy  a funding  issue  that  unfairly penalizes  the                                                                    
     Lower  Yukon  School  District for  opening  a  charter                                                                    
     school in Hooper Bay.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  penalty within  the statute  for adding  a charter                                                                    
     school in  Hooper Bay resulted  in an  annual reduction                                                                    
     in funding  of $1,033,000  for FY 2021,  and $1,021,000                                                                    
     for  FY2022. Until  this funding  penalty is  remedied,                                                                    
     LYSD will lose approximately $1 million each year.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The   District   operates  two   separate   educational                                                                    
     programs in the Hooper  Bay School; the conventional K-                                                                    
     12  school and  a 4th  -8th grade  charter school  that                                                                    
     features   a  culturally   relevant,  place   based  on                                                                    
     learning  curriculum  for its  students.  Additionally,                                                                    
     the school  has a  K-3 Yupik  Immersion program  but is                                                                    
     not part  of the charter  school and functions  as part                                                                    
     of the conventional school as a special program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Some would argue  that SB 236 has a fiscal  note to the                                                                    
     State of Alaska of $1 million annually.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     LYSD sees the opposite; to  date our loss of foundation                                                                    
     funding has resulted in fiscal  surplus to the state of                                                                    
     $2 million dollars for the FY 21 and FY 22.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     As  a result  of  the Hooper  Bay  Charter School,  our                                                                    
     district has  same number of  students- the  exact same                                                                    
     students- inside  of the same school  building- and yet                                                                    
     we realize  a funding  penalty of  over $1  million per                                                                    
     year.  By adding  the  three  words "excluding  charter                                                                  
     schools" to  AS 14.17.905,  the annual  funding penalty                                                                  
     is  remedied and  it becomes  feasible  to fund  Hooper                                                                    
     Bay's Charter School. As it  stands now, the statute is                                                                    
     punitive and this unintended  $1 million annual funding                                                                    
     penalty   impacts  our   entire  school   district  and                                                                    
     effectively  jeopardizes  rural   Alaskans'  access  to                                                                    
     school choice.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     SB 236  would remedy  this funding problem  and support                                                                    
     charter  school  equity  for the  rural  Alaska  school                                                                    
     districts.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Thank   you   for   sponsoring  and   scheduling   this                                                                    
     legislation, thank you for  your time and consideration                                                                    
     and I'm open for any questions.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:09:39 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH said  if  the  district got  rid  of the  charter                                                               
school, there would not be a  penalty, and kids would still be in                                                               
the same  school building.  He asked  if SB  236 would  erase the                                                               
penalty.  He opined  that the  statute  unfairly penalizes  small                                                               
districts and prevents them from having charter schools.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEAVITT responded yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:10:13 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND asked whether SB 236 would affect other schools in                                                                
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOVITT replied that it would not.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:10:35 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KING said  that while  Hooper Bay's  charter school  was the                                                               
only district affected, the statute  could cause the same problem                                                               
for other communities; therefore, the legislation was necessary.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:11:13 AM                                                                                                                    
ELWIN BLACKWELL, School Finance  Manager, Department of Education                                                               
and  Early Development  (DEED), Juneau,  Alaska, replied  that no                                                               
other school  or district  would be affected  by SB  236. Average                                                               
daily membership  (ADM) numbers do  not show any other  school or                                                               
district falling under this statute section anytime soon.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   HUGHES  asked   Mr.  Leavitt   when  the   problem  was                                                               
discovered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:12:16 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOVITT replied  that the issue had occurred  once before when                                                               
the school's  enrollment exceeded  425 students. The  problem was                                                               
resolved in  2018. The  district knew funding  would be  an issue                                                               
when the community pushed for  a charter school. However, he said                                                               
he  was   unsure  whether  the  charter   school  understood  the                                                               
districtwide impact.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES asked  whether the charter school  was impacted by                                                               
the  loss of  funds  since  its funding  was  in  place, and  she                                                               
questioned why it took two years to request the change.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:13:27 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LOVITT  replied  that  the  charter  school  received  total                                                               
funding, and  the rest of  the district incurred the  penalty. He                                                               
said the  request was delayed  due to the charter  school opening                                                               
late in the year and legislation  failing to gain traction due to                                                               
Covid shutdowns.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND responded  that he would accept some  blame for the                                                               
delay. He  said he  had heard  of the  legislation as  a freshman                                                               
senator and should have given it more attention.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES said that it makes  sense that Covid would cause a                                                               
delay.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:14:36 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND held SB 236 in committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 236 Sponsor Statement.pdf SEDC 3/25/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 236
SB 236 Fiscal Note (FP).pdf SEDC 3/25/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 236
SB 236 Fiscal Note (PEF).pdf SEDC 3/25/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 236
SB 236 CS.pdf SEDC 3/25/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 236
SB 236 LYSD Letter.pdf SEDC 3/25/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 236
SB 196 Sponsor Statement 2.21.22.pdf SEDC 3/25/2022 9:00:00 AM
SJUD 4/25/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 196
SB 196 Sectional 2.25.22.pdf SEDC 3/25/2022 9:00:00 AM
SJUD 4/25/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 196